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Message: [QUOTE="Linus, post: 41380, member: 3872"] Generally, I don't like KA since Whirlpool took over the division. They've cheapened the mixers 7 began using cheap parts to make them. If you remember, Hobart had only two models & those ran like an Army tank!! Over the years, Whirlpool had made tons of them. They looked very good, but looks don't get it when you're looking for quality. Which is why I've switched to Globe commercial mixers. The KA hand-held mixer is very good. I like that one, & it is very quiet. But as for the stand mixers, they are all crap!! Buy quality once or buy junk forever!! :mad: [/QUOTE]